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What are the best instructions for a beginner installing from Windows XP onto an HP laptop?

  Date: Dec 12    Category: Unix / Linux / Ubuntu    Views: 568
  

What are the best instructions for a beginner installing from Windows
XP onto an HP laptop? I am a computer savvy person but eveytime I
admit that I find stuff I don't know anything about.

To make Ubantu useful, which programs should I install to replace MS
Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Access)?

Which applications should I get to replace Windows Explorer, Internet
Explorer, Outlook Express? Will MS Outlook run on Ubantu? Any
replacements for it?

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Answer #1    Answered On: Dec 12    

I live in the states...

Do a Google search for Ubuntu and you should find all kinds of information

For MS Office you would use Open Office instead

For IE you would want to use Opera or Firefox

Outlook and Outlook Express would become Evolution or Thunderbird.

Of course there are other equivalent programs out there for browsers and
email programs but Open Office is the better one for MS Office replacement.

Do some searching on Google and you should find alot of information on
Ubuntu.

 
Answer #2    Answered On: Dec 12    

UBUNTU COMES WITH OPEN OFFICE.

 
Answer #3    Answered On: Dec 12    

I'm about as far from Hawaii as you can get. Upstate NY. We got up to 44
yesterday, but tomorrow is going to be back in the teens.

I loaded my Ubuntu 8.10 on a PC I built my self last night. It seemed to go
fine with a couple odd things, but no real problems. I got a message that
graphics was loading but there was a problem, but it looks fine to me. I have
another PC, the one I'm using now, so I got rid of an old non working version of
XP and have just Ububtu loaded. I'm planning on using it for video recording and
editing and ofcourse burning DVDs. I'm taking it slow and reading The Ubuntu
Pocket Guide by Keir Thomas. It has some very good instructions and tip to using
Ubuntu. As usual experience is the best teacher.

 
Answer #4    Answered On: Dec 12    

Linux is not windows
and i'd say install on a spare old machine so you can test and
experiment before you start to use it seriously as it were. Before i
install a new app i do it first on my spare machine. I've just made
the mistake of installing Acrobat which has upset another application
and efax-gtk. I'll just be waiting for the April release now though.

 
Answer #5    Answered On: Dec 12    

Where in Upstate NY?

I live in TN now but I was born in Delaware County (Walton) and raised
in Sullivan County (Grahamsville).

 
Answer #6    Answered On: Dec 12    

Install instructions? Stick the disk in and off you go! Well, with fingers
crossed anyway. But if it's your first time with Ubuntu you'd probably do
well to keep Windows running side by side until you're sure Ubuntu can do
everything you need. Dual booting initially worked well for me, and
providing there's enough disk space should happen almost automatically.
There are other options such as emulation or virtualization, and of course
if you've got other computers to run Windows then throw caution to the
winds.

And come back here if you run into difficulties. Chances are ubuntu will
run straight up and delight you, but sometimes there are oddities, but if
so you can be pretty sure someone will have solved them.

OpenOffice comes with Ubuntu (or if not for any reason then you can get it
from the repositories once Ubuntu's up and running). It will replace Word
and Excel and I think PowerPoint with close to 100% compatibility. Macros
is probably the most incompatible part - I think you have to start again
if you have any of those. Access is another matter though. There is a
database manager but I haven't been able to find any points of
compatibility in it - not that I've looked very hard. But it's one of the
few things for which I still have to put up with XP. Incidentally you can
also get OpenOffice on Windows - for free - and if more people did so then
microsoft might get the message that they can't charge big bucks for new
software that breaks what its users have already done with it.

The job of Windows Explorer is taken in Ubuntu by Nautilus by default
(Dolphin in Kubuntu), but as in Windows you hardly notice it, it fires up
when you try to browse for files. There are subtle little differences from
Windows but you soon get used to using it. Firefox 3 is the internet
browser by default in Ubuntu (Konqueror in Kubuntu but it's easy to
replace it with Firefox). Evolution handles Ubuntu email by default, I
thought it was good enough but a bit drab. There are plenty of
alternatives, I've found Thunderbird suits my way of doing things, even
though it's fairly similar to Outlook. MS Outlook won't run, no Windows
exes will, but there are replacements for almost everything, and if you
just can't find what you need you can run many exes in Wine, which
emulates Windows, or as a last resort install VirtualBox to run a minimal
Windows within Ubuntu. That's what I use for my heavily asp and access
bound website, and my CorelDraw graphics, until I can find the time for a
complete rewrite.

I still consider myself quite a newbie to Ubuntu, although I've been
playing with it for a couple of years and gradually had more and more
successes. Like many here my computing experience goes back decades, and
like you I still surprise myself by just how much I don't understand.

 
Answer #7    Answered On: Dec 12    

Thanks for the words of advise and expertise. In the beginning I'll compile
some of that information for later.

As it turned out, I didn't pay attention to the processor-type noted in the
Ubuntu download. After a nearly 9-hour download, the ubuntu version was the
wrong one for my machine. When I signed up for the free CD, will I find it also
is for the wrong processor? ...or are both processor-types supported on the
single CD? I'm in no hurry so I'll wait for the physical CD before continuing.

I tried Slackware and RedHat many years ago but could not get past the
preparatory part of the installations. Living on an island in the middle of the
Pacific didn't make getting help any easier. I was not privy to Yahoo! groups
at that time.

R. Nelson Canniff: With Y! Groups, geographical location is not so important.
So thanks go clear out to New York. "Experience is the best teacher" may be
true but it uses the most unorthodox teaching method... It gives the test first
and the instruction comes later.

Thanks for the individual rundown on all my questions. Since I'm
still brand new to Linux I appreciate the attention to detail.

I have one spare, old HP Pavilion fx145 machine to experiment on.
It was not listed on the Linux equipment page.

For those of you who are wondering, the temp was 72 today with gentle breezes
from the north. It was cool but comfortable today.

 
Answer #8    Answered On: Dec 12    

Even if it isn't listed give it a try.
You could look up that machine on the HP site and see what parts it has.
As long as the individual parts are listed you should be ok.

 
Answer #9    Answered On: Dec 12    

Thanks I needed to hear that. :( It is -5 here Celsius which is 23
Fahrenheit and it is about to get much colder over the next two days.

Re: the wrong version. 32-bit will work on a 64-bit computer, but not the other
way around. Am I correct then in assuming then that you have a 32-bit computer
and downloaded the 64-bit version?

Do you have a broadband connection? Downloading it is the easiest way and then
don't bother burning a CD, just use Unetbootin to create one. In fact it will
even download and install it to a usb key, without needed the ISO at the start.
The only trick is that your BIOS needs to be able to boot from a usb key.

 
Answer #10    Answered On: Dec 12    

Thanks for the reply and sorry about rubbing the tropical temperatures
into the group. It's one of the perks of living in the tropics. One rub is
enough for me.

Regarding the wrong version; I noticed one download was for Intel chips and
another download was for AMD chips. I have the AMD and I downloaded the Intel
version. I did notice the 32 / 64 bit differences too. I have a cheap laptop
so I don't expect it to have a 64-bit processor.

I do have broadband (Cable modem) and a wired 100MHz home network. There must
be some bottleneck at the Santa Barbara download site.

I like your signature: "Only dead fish go with the flow." I have a 'heart to
heart' meeting with my employees tomorrow. I'll use that. I'll give you credit
!!

Thanks for the equipment clue. I will try it eventhough my
equipment doesn't show up. I'll look at the equipment on the HP site for my
machine as well.

 
Answer #11    Answered On: Dec 12    

I think I'm right in saying that AMD processors are comletely (or nearly
enough) comaptible with Intel, at least at 32 bit. I've just been to the
download page (http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download) and I can't see
the choice between Intel and AMD mentioned.

64-bit processors are dead common these days, however software that makes
use of them is still right rare. 64-bit Ubuntu tends to have problems that
32-bit doesn't, so I hear (and the same with Windows too). Fortunately 32
bit software runs on 64 bit machines. You might want to check some more,
but I think you can go ahead and try it out.

Why not run it up in LiveCD mode anyway (run the operating system direct
from the CD) and if that looks ok go ahead and install.

 
Answer #12    Answered On: Dec 12    

This is still all new to me and I'm not fully understanding everything I see.
After going back and examining the pages I visited I found the one that
specifies AMD or i386 downloads.

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors <--- See "BitTorrent" below the
blue box.

I'm not sure that this download is for but it only took 1-second so it certainly
was not the CD image.

 
Answer #13    Answered On: Dec 12    

I'm running a Dell with an AMD Sempron Processor and I'm using the
i386 distro, the AMD/Intel problem doesn't exist 'till you go to
64-bit computing. BTW I just made the big switch last week of Jan(09),
and you're NOT alone, you're a member of an on-line community here in
Yahoo and there's a whole bunch more out on the wonderful World Wide
Web! I'm sorta new 'cause this is the first time I'm running Linux
full time even though I've mess around with it in the past. Guess
we'll be learning together, won't we?

 
Answer #14    Answered On: Dec 12    

I found another college site that differentiates between i386 and AMD but it is
explained better. Seems the AMD-64 processor needs a specialized version of
ubuntu.
samaritan.ucmerced.edu/.../

Now I understand a little better. ...and PS -- you were right.

 
Answer #15    Answered On: Dec 12    

The 1-scond download will have been a bittorrent header or tracker or
whatever it's called, it's sort of like a URL that you put into a
bittorrent client which then handles the actual download in a
perr-to-peer filesharing system. Probably not an ideal way to download
Ubuntu, a straightforward download is normally much quicker.

So, have you tried Ubuntu yet? Burned your CD and run it up? Good luck,
I'm sure it'll be worth the wait.

 
Answer #16    Answered On: Dec 12    

Bittorrent generally checks the files as they are downloaded, so I would
rather download with bittorrent so i don't have to do a md5sum check
manually.

 
Answer #17    Answered On: Dec 12    

BTW I just made the big switch last week of Jan(09),
and you're NOT alone, you're a member of an on-line community here in
Yahoo and there's a whole bunch more out on the wonderful World Wide
Web! I'm sorta new 'cause this is the first time I'm running Linux
full time even though I've mess around with it in the past. Guess
we'll be learning together, won't we?

 
Answer #18    Answered On: Dec 12    

Thanks for the explanation of the BitTorrent Header (etc.). That 1-second
download never gave me any interaction to let me know what it was. It could
have been the missing segment of the Nixon tapes as far as I know. As per your
good judgment, I will stick to downloading from the official Ubuntu site.

Well, I'm not quite as far along as I thought I might be. I downloaded Ubuntu
onto the laptop last week but the download is not perfect. Some of the bit
checks do not add up, according to the CD burner software.

For such a long download, I am severely tempted to hibernate until the Ubuntu CD
to arrives. Also, my CD burner software does not recognize the ISO image file
format. I have four other burner programs (Sony, PowerDVD, Nero, and TDK CD
Blender). One of those should support unwrapping the ISO image.

The good news is my wife works at a charter school (http://www.whea.info) where
the computer geek is knowledgeable of Linux. I should make some time to meet
with him and get started. In a town of 30,000 on a rock in the middle of the
Pacific, I'm lucky to find a Linux-savvy person.

This weekend I'll be busy running my boat (http://www.captaindean.org) as an
officials boat for a ocean 6-man canoe race (http://www.keauhoucanoeclub.com).
Next weekend I'll be taking my boss (http://www.astonhotels.com) and his wife
and daughter our for whale watching and snorkeling.

By the time all that is done, the official Ubuntu CD should be nearby and maybe
I can get really serious.

 
Answer #19    Answered On: Dec 12    

you can click on this google search and find a bittorent client and
be asured that your download will be good.

<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bittorrent+client&btnG=Google+Search&aq=2s\
&oq=bittore>

Most good bittorent clients do a check of the file pieces as there
downloaded to your computer.
I like Deluge but Transmission is a good client also.


When I used Windows Nero was a good program for burning ISO images.
Here is a good program to burn images on Windows.
<http://www.imgburn.com/>

 
Answer #20    Answered On: Dec 12    

Thanks for the support regarding the i386 compatibility. My laptop is an old
one which is most likely not a 64-bit processor.

Check out my last post to Steve and read that I will be busy for a couple
weekends and then get down to the business of Linux. In the meantime, I'll keep
reading posts and learning bits and nibbles here and there.

 
Answer #21    Answered On: Dec 12    

Thanks for the welcome. I'm going to lay low for a couple weeks then get back
up to speed again right afterward. My plate is a bit full right now. Two weeks
should take care of it.

 
Answer #22    Answered On: Dec 12    

Thanks for the Bittorrent information. Glad to talk with a 6-year veteran.

 
Answer #23    Answered On: Dec 12    

Thanks for the links. I visited both and downloaded both.

When I ran BitTorrent, I was instantly reminded that I used "explosion.wav" for
my Windows Critical Stop sound. A bit odd since I did download the Windows
version.

Any thoughts about that?

 
Answer #24    Answered On: Dec 12    

when is the critical stop coming up in the install?

 
Answer #25    Answered On: Dec 12    

As soon as I double-click the icon, the explosion.wav recombs my hair.

 




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