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has anyone tried PC/OS

  Date: Dec 18    Category: Unix / Linux / Ubuntu    Views: 530
  

I recently was browsing the latest postings on DistrWatch and thought
I would try PC/OS 2008 V2. It was touted as a great distro for someone
coming to Linux from Windows. I still consider myself a newbie after
working with and learning about Linux for almost a year now. I
sometimes wonder if I have learned anything.

I had no problems with the install and set up of said distro. I have
found some things on my installation that were less than stellar,
though. I am running Mepis 7.0 and Kubuntu 8.04 on an Intel dual core
3.0 Mhz processor. I was just wondering if anyone else has looked into
this distro.

I could not find a way to set the desktop icons for single click
rather than double click.

I could not find a way to have the numlock turned on at boot.

CDs didn't play when a cd was inserted.

Videos online would play but there was not sound.

Now some of the things mentioned are very elementary for many in this
group but for a distro that is supposed to work 'out of the box', it
seems that it falls short of advertisement. I am not trashing this
distro because it looks good.

Just wondering if anyone else has looked at this distro.

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22 Answers Found

 
Answer #1    Answered On: Dec 18    

I am duel booting wth pclos 2007 and it works great. I lke gnome and had to
install it. Its an older version of gnome and kde. All the settings and such
should be about the same as ubuntu. Its my uderstandng that the 2008 version is
just a ini version, and it may not have as much i it. They have a planed 2008
full version coming out sometime soon.Id try the 2007 version and keep it
updated that when the new version hts you willhave. This is what I learned on
their support forume. I also understand that they only have two programrs
working on it. They keep things updaed but new version or slow. to come out.I
like t. Its is faster on my computer than ubuntu 8.04 was. It useing rpm with
synaptic It useing same grub as ubuntu, so its easy to duel boot . can be set up
from either system. I think if you get it fixed up right for you it you will
like it.

 
Answer #2    Answered On: Dec 18    

However, you're dual booting into PCLinuxOS, Tex's Mandriva variant
which uses RPMs, not the Ubuntu based XFCE of Ubuntu 8.04, which PC/OS is.

I too was intrigued with the Distro listing on this OS that came up
this week.http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=05063The PC/OS Live CD however, came up with such small unreadable text on
the X bootup that I couldn't navigate the desktop. Anyone know bootup
parameters which will allow it to say, bootup in 1024 x 760 mode?

Perhaps the Linux Mint XFCE beta 025 is a better route to go with
similar characteristics as are claimed by PC/OS?

 
Answer #3    Answered On: Dec 18    

I used PC/OS for a week together with other distros.

 
Answer #4    Answered On: Dec 18    

The PC/OS Live CD however, came up with such small unreadable text on
the X bootup that I couldn't navigate the desktop. Anyone know bootup
parameters which will allow it to say, bootup in 1024 x 760 mode?

I don't remember problems with the small text on bootup but on some
distros live cds I have learned to hit the F3 or F4 key at the menu
and then you can choose resolution. I know with Mepis 7.0 I had to do
that and if I didn't then I couldn't seem to get the change to stick
once it was installed and running.

It might have been small for me with PC/OS 2008v2 but age makes the
memory a thing of the past. Sometimes it is good that I can't remember
and others it is the pits.

 
Answer #5    Answered On: Dec 18    

The F keys don't help this PC/OS with no resolution popup. I too have
used MEPIS, but same system won't boot the New Beta of MEPIS 7.9.
Ready to quit MEPIS if they can't build upon a good system and
actually lose ground on "upgrades". Same is true of the newer Anti-X
no longer working.

Think I'll give Mint 5 XFCE a try next. Apparently they don't progress
out of Beta stage until 2 version numbers, in XFCE or KDE, however.http://www.linuxmint.com/releasenotes.php

 
Answer #6    Answered On: Dec 18    

I am duel booting wth pclos 2007 and it works great.

I have tried and ran pclos 2007 for a while but couldn't keep
the dsl internet connection working. It would just not work. I got
tired of fooling with it and deleted it.

What my post referred to, as I am sure you have realized if you get a
download of each day's threads, PC/OS and not PCLOS.

 
Answer #7    Answered On: Dec 18    

Sorry I did not realize that one existed. I use cabel and have no problem I use
wiresd router.

I looked it up so now know about it.

 
Answer #8    Answered On: Dec 18    

I have recently tried Mandriva One 2008 and it worked great on my system. It
detected everything properly and even installed the wireless flawlessly. It has
a great control panel and lots of tools. It was fast and great looking. The only
fly in the ointment is its package manager which is RPM based, has fewer
packages available, and it was not as descriptive as I would like. If you are
inclined towards RPM distros (I am not), it is worth a look. PCLOS is a fork of
Mandriva and it uses some of the same applets. However, it uses Synaptic, but it
is still RPM based .

PC OS is an Ubuntu derivative which is based on Xubuntu and it is not so fussy
about using proprietary software and drivers, so multimedia works out of the
box. It also tries to slim things down by using Flock over Firefox and has some
Google stuff installed. It is larger than Ubuntu (fits on a DVD). Unfortunately
its name is to close to PCLOS.

 
Answer #9    Answered On: Dec 18    

MEPIS is a great little distro. It does not have the personnel to keep up with
the big distros, but Warren has a good thing, if he can just find the time to
keep it going. Pity because it has lots of potential. I was an early adopter and
used it as my main distro for years. I dropped it after they switched to an
Ubuntu core and then flip flopped back to Debian. Too much of a roller coaster
ride for me.

 
Answer #10    Answered On: Dec 18    

Mepis is out of Morgantown West Virginia. Morgantown is the home of
West Virginia University. A deal should be made with WVU to get some
computer science students to help with the upkeep of the distro.

 
Answer #11    Answered On: Dec 18    

MEPIS is a great little distro. It does not have the personnel to
keep up with the big distros, but Warren has a good thing, if he can
just find the time to keep it going. Pity because it has lots of
potential.

It is a great distro it seems to me. I would say it is my main distro.
Kubuntu comes in a close second. I have had pretty good results with
help from the forum. I did see something recently on Distrowatch, I
think, where the 8.0 release is being worked on. I will definitely
look at it when it is released.

I didn't have a good experience with Mandriva. I guess I didn't want
to spend the time to fix things that didn't work on my system. When
you have Mepis and Kubuntu that work, something else is going to have
to be pretty impressive and trouble free for a newbie to change over.

 
Answer #12    Answered On: Dec 18    

I'd agree about Mepis. Considering it is a one man job it is
excellent. I've been disappointed with kubuntu compared with ubuntu.
Ubuntu documentation is what keeps me a supporter but if i wanted KDE
i'd choose Mepis. Considering the number of staff at Canonical cf
Mepis i am disappointed with them in some respects. As for rpm based
distros... tried suse and fedora (great on looks but package
management lets them down). Nothing to compare with APT in my opinion.

 
Answer #13    Answered On: Dec 18    

With recent releases of MEPIS being based upon Debian and Ubuntu on
pseudo-Debian, one would think that Plain Old Debian, itself, would be
a bit friendlier on things such as hardware recognition...but, it's NOT!

 
Answer #14    Answered On: Dec 18    

You are not alone. Kubuntu users in general would agree that Kubuntu does not
get the same care and attention that Ubuntu does from Canonical. The reason is
that Ubuntu has a close relationship with Gnome and their futures are tied
together, each sharing a great deal of history and owing a lot to the other.
Without Ubuntu, Gnome would not be so popular and maybe the reverse is true as
well. It is by far the biggest distro to use Gnome. KDE on the other hand is
more widespread and it does not have the same close ties. Kubuntu developers
complain all the time that they do not have the same resources, while Canonical
denies this and says the projects are separate entities which set their own
objectives.

You can install KDE instead of Kubuntu. This gives you full KDE on top of the
Ubuntu base which is somewhat different from Kubuntu which gives you only what
the Kubuntu project wants to install. If you try to do this, Synaptic will try
to remove Kubuntu in which case you lose the Kubuntu themes, splash screens,
sounds, icons, etc. I don't advise this, but just point out that it is possible
to run KDE and still use the repositories to get the benefits of using
Canonical's repositories which are huge and still run KDE based on the same core
as Ubuntu.

The problem that many users have with Ubuntu/ Kubuntu and its development cycle
is that it works at first and suddenly things may start to go wrong. This
happens because the release is based on one version of Gnome or KDE, but then a
new version is released by Gnome or KDE, independently of Ubuntu or Kubuntu and
then we get lots of updates.

The development cycle that Canonical sets is not synced with the other projects
and this leads to a development cycle within a development cycle which is one of
the reasons that Shuttleworth wanted to sync
development schedules so that an Ubuntu release would coincide with a
new Xorg and new Gnome release. So far, nobody has taken him up on it and many
critics see this as self serving. It is only a matter of time before schedules
begin to align on their own. Now lots of distros have annual or semi-annual
releases. The pressure will mount on the Gnome and KDE projects to get in step
or risk losing their users.

Just my take on it. There is lots being said about this in the RSS feeds,
Brainstorm and forums if you care to wade in on the debate.

 
Answer #15    Answered On: Dec 18    

KDE users might want to compare Kubuntu to Linux Mint 5 KDE beta 045
or the Ultimate Editions.

 
Answer #16    Answered On: Dec 18    

KDE users might want to compare Kubuntu to Linux Mint 5 KDE beta 045
or the Ultimate Editions.

I was trying to hold out on Mint 5 KDE until it got beyond beta to a
full release. I keep watching for it.

 
Answer #17    Answered On: Dec 18    

I would love to try the ultimate edition,I downloaded it,burned it to a
DVD,BUT..my computer will not recognize my external DVD drive. Thus,I
cannot boot to the DVD drive in order to install UE. Tried
everything..there is no BIOS setting to allow me to boot to the external
dvd drive..

 
Answer #18    Answered On: Dec 18    

Sending this from the Ultimate Edition 1.8 Live DVD.

The newer 1.9, although also based upon Ubuntu 8.04, wouldn't connect
wirelessly. Perhaps the 1.8 version will solve your problem?http://ultimateedition.info/Ultimate_Edition_1.8/I'm not sure if we can count on Linux Mint 5 KDE getting out of Beta
soon. They still have Mint 4 in beta stage for XFCE and Fluxbox.

Also, this Ultimat Edition 1.8 is holding a wireless connection that
wasn't consistent in the Linux Mint 5 KDE Beta 045.

 
Answer #19    Answered On: Dec 18    

I'm not sure if we can count on Linux Mint 5 KDE getting out of Beta
soon. They still have Mint 4 in beta stage for XFCE and Fluxbox.

Also, this Ultimat Edition 1.8 is holding a wireless connection that
wasn't consistent in the Linux Mint 5 KDE Beta 045.

I just saw on the Mint website the XFCE and Fluxbox editions are due
out early this week and the KDE version will be out by next weekend.
We will see how that turns out.

 
Answer #20    Answered On: Dec 18    

Lots depends on the kernel for recognition of hardware. Distros which do not
keep up with kernel changes do not have the capability to recognize the latest
hardware. This makes them stable but crippled in some respects. When you use a
distro you have to buy into their philosophy and as long as you do then you are
usually happy with it.

People who crave stability forgo being up to date with the newest, latest and
greatest. Being too much on the bleeding edge causes the opposite. This is where
the experimental release of Ubuntu is located. You are advised not to use it as
your every day OS. Crashes and the like are to be expected. Ubuntu's stable
release tries to iron out the bugs and then give a fairly up-to-date and stable
OS.

Ubuntu is based on Sid, the unstable branch of Debian with backports filling in
some gaps. Debian itself is based on Etch (formerly Sarge) which is the latest
stable version of Debian, soon to be Lenny (September, 2008 ?). All Debian names
are from Toy Story, just as Ubuntu's are from the animal kingdom.

So everyone has to consider what they personally want. As with everything one
must make compromises on way or another. There is no perfect OS. Ubuntu tries to
walk several lines, between stability and innovation and another between free
and proprietary. Some people appreciate what they are trying to do while purists
greet it with derision and those who just want it to work can't see why they
don't include flash and codecs by default. As I said, it is a philosophical
difference. The same can be said with the rolling release concept of Debian and
the six month release cycle of Ubuntu. You either buy into it or look elsewhere.

Which brings up the single best thing about Linux. We have choice and nobody
wants it any other way. There is a place for every distro, including MEPIS and
SUSE. There are users who like the small hand crafted, slow growing approach,
while others like the glitz and power of a big corporation like Novell. There is
a niche for just about every possible use of Linux and users are free to go
where they feel best served.

Again Ubuntu is somewhere in the middle. It was once small, but now it is huge
compared to its humble beginnings. Canonical is a company, but they are not even
breaking even. They do not complain. They keep building on their vision of Linux
for everyone and hope that ordinary users and business will respond. To date,
they have, but there is a long way to go before Ubuntu or any Linux distro can
go head-to-head with the big players, like Microsoft or Apple.

That is why it is unfair to compare Canonical to those companies or their
products, or even Novell, because they have established records and product
recognition. They also have a large say in what OEMS do. Which is the primary
reason why we don't have drivers (lack of OEM cooperation, either because the
market is small or they do not want to PO M$ and spoil their preferred status).

Despite all of Ubuntu's apparent success. Linux has an estimated 2 % of the desktop market and Ubuntu has only about a half of that. In servers, Linux is better developed, but Canonical has made little penetration there. This is why I hate it when Linux users cut up other distros (not here, but elsewhere), everyone is trying their best against great odds of ever achieving success.

 
Answer #21    Answered On: Dec 18    

So everyone has to consider what they personally want. As with
everything one must make compromises on way or another. There is no
perfect OS. Ubuntu tries to walk several lines, between stability and
innovation and another between free and proprietary. Some people
appreciate what they are trying to do while purists greet it with
derision and those who just want it to work can't see why they don't
include flash and codecs by default. As I said, it is a philosophical
difference. The same can be said with the rolling release concept of
Debian and the six month release cycle of Ubuntu. You either buy into
it or look elsewhere.

Which brings up the single best thing about Linux. We have choice
and nobody wants it any other way. There is a place for every distro,
including MEPIS and SUSE. There are users who like the small hand
crafted, slow growing approach, while others like the glitz and power
of a big corporation like Novell. There is a niche for just about
every possible use of Linux and users are free to go where they feel
best served.

Again Ubuntu is somewhere in the middle. It was once small, but now
it is huge compared to its humble beginnings. Canonical is a company,
but they are not even breaking even. They do not complain. They keep
building on their vision of Linux for everyone and hope that ordinary
users and business will respond. To date, they have, but there is a
long way to go before Ubuntu or any Linux distro can go head-to-head
with the big players, like Microsoft or Apple.

That is why it is unfair to compare Canonical to those companies or
their products, or even Novell, because they have established records
and product recognition. They also have a large say in what OEMS do.
Which is the primary reason why we don't have drivers (lack of OEM
cooperation, either because the market is small or they do not want to
PO M$ and spoil their preferred status).

It is still very much David and Goliath struggle, despite all of
Ubuntu's apparent success. Linux has an estimated 2 % of the desktop
market and Ubuntu has only about a half of that. In servers, Linux is
better developed, but Canonical has made little penetration there.
This is why I hate it when Linux users cut up other distros (not here,
but elsewhere), everyone is trying their best against great odds of
ever achieving success.

 
Answer #22    Answered On: Dec 18    

This resource may work for you. It uses Ubuntu, but the second method could
possibly work for UE.www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-dri\
ve.htmlAlso worth looking at is this site:marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.htmland this one uses a usb key:http://librenix.com/?inode=11001

 
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