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Window Focus and KDE on UNE

  Date: Jan 11    Category: Unix / Linux / Ubuntu    Views: 449
  

My net book has problems keeping it's focus using UNE. At times the
window that should be in focus appears to be transparent as a mouse
click selects something on the window under it. I assume that it is
likely the desktop part of Ubuntu UNE but don't know that for sure.

I wonder if the focus problem goes deeper because the net book fails to
work well when using the external monitor connection. I tried to use
this little machine for a projector to demonstrate to my small computer
class I head. If I try to type something into a window I loose the
projector and have a hard time getting it back. My guess is the focus
variables are being manipulated by other functions that should not have
access but that is like a a peasant telling us the weather.

I would like to use the net book for the class but realize as it sets,
it is not up to the job. I use 10.04 on this machine.

My Questions:

1. Is the gnome that is used on my laptop an option on UNE?
2. Is KDE an option that may keep things in focus?
3. Has anyone else seen this behavior?
4. Do I want to install the Kdesktop-full as I have done on my Laptop?

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3 Answers Found

 
Answer #1    Answered On: Jan 11    

On my eeePC 1000HA, I run full GNOME and full KDE without a problem and even
use Compiz. I don't do a extreme mulit-tasking or heavy processing chores,
because I use it for light tasks such as reading RSS feeds, listening to
podcasts, email, e-reader, etc. I have not tried to max it out.

I am not sure about your problem because I gave up on UNE early on. It is
slower than GNOME with Compiz. Mutter, the window manager, is to blame. When
Natty comes out, Mutter will be history on Ubuntu. Unity will use Compiz and
Unity 2D will use Metacity. It costs nothing to try out another desktop,
except the time. You can have more than one installed. You could also look
at XFCE and LXDE.

 
Answer #2    Answered On: Jan 11    

Let me get my head around this. UNE is the cut down or modified system
for netbooks. This I have installed. I tried the full Gnome with bad
results because the monitor makes viewing difficult. I installed the KDE
standard desktop and needed to install the network manager widget to
connect to the internet. likely because I don't know how else to do it.

Are you saying you have the standard package of Ubuntu installed on your
netbook or the UNE with the standard Gnome desktop installed?

I likely would not notice the problem if I had not tried to use the
computer in class hooked up to an external projector. I do not push the
system to any limits, however I do some image manipulation using Gimp.
Other than focus I have not had any problems with it. I now spend more
time on my Netbook than my laptop so I must be OK with the few
glitches. I now use KDE more than Gnome.

 
Answer #3    Answered On: Jan 11    

I have the full version of KDE and GNOME. No UNE installed at all. My
netbook has 1 GB of DDR2 RAM, 1.6 Ghz Atom Processor and Intel graphics.
Nothing fancy.

UNE has scaled down graphics (smaller screen size and font) and has a
simplified interface with less need for virtual desktops, but it is not
faster than GNOME. The reason is that GNOME uses Metacity and UNE uses
Mutter which has performance issues. When the new version of Ubuntu comes
out it will have Unity as the default desktop environment, but it will not
use Mutter because it is a clunker. It will have either Compiz (for
compositing) or Metacity (without compositing). So if you are finding Unity
works better that is the opposite of what most people find and the opposite
of what Canonical thinks, otherwise they woulod still be using Mutter.

I have used KDE's Netbook interface and prefer it to Unity, but still prefer
GNOME with either Metacity or Compiz. There is an application in the
repositories called Fusion Icon and when you run it it loads to the
notication area and it allows you to switch window managers and decorators,
so you can go between Metacity and Compiz and see what works better. You cna
even use KDE decorations in GNOME and vice versa. I don't know if it would
show Mutter, but it is worth a try.

When you installed KDE did it install the full KDE interface or the netbook
one? They are identical under the surface. It installed the Netbook version
for me with my asking it to. I had a hard time trying to figure out how to
remove it and change it to regular KDE. Whether I run KDE or GNOME I change
to font and icon size (smaller) and turn on anti-aliasing. This works well
for me, but every user is different. I prefer KDE because I love to
customise rather than go with the stock installation and everything in KDE
is changeable. I always find it strange that GNOME users criticise KDE for
this when they don't plan on changing it anyway.

I switched to KDE 4.6 on my desktop computer a couple of days ago. It is
really slick. I stayed with 4.5 on my netbook, though. KDE, GNOME and Unity
are all headed in a similar direction and changing the way we work. They are
all moving away from spatial desktops to conceptual desktops. They all call
it Activities. KDE's is a little different in that you can use both spatial
and conceptual together. That's what I like about KDE. You keep on getting
more and lose nothing in the process. Unity and GNOME Shell give up spatial
for Activities, or at least they make it harder to use both. I think GNOME
and Unity users are going to have a bit of adjustment to make. KDE users can
just keep working along as always and can try the new features or keep it as
it is.

 
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