> edd,I hear you but you are missing the point. Not everybody is a
> genius and some of us are also short on money. Most Java books are
> focused and don't provide all the information across the board. The
> part about learning different angles from different books is great,
> but that is once you get past the first few months. My point is that
> some people(maybe not as bright as you) sometimes need to know a bit
> more in depth, what new terms mean, in order to move  on ahead within
> their comfort level. It is those people (like me) that benefit from
> Java Power Source.

Yes I can see you like that book. But it is not the only one whcih is good for
learners. There is a very good book which i have two in its serise of. C++ The
Black Book and Java 2 The black book. Anoying though and I think you would like
it, it repeats and repeasts and repeats itself like a bleeting sheep.

Some people like this, I dont, I know the person who lent it to me originally
liked it's method. However what it does give is a very detailed method
descripion for classes. In my infinate wisdom I ordered both from Amazon at the
same time. I think the older style books by the original authors of C would have
suited me better, with less bloat.

However, You cannot beat old fashioned teaching of a programming  languge.
Perhaps spending £100 on an evening course other than spending that money on
books would be better. At least there are people there who you can ask on a
one-to-one basis.

> You would be surprised to know how many of us there are. Amazon has many
> many books on Java. Regarding less spam making you more money
> congratulations (you must be rich by now) but I fail to see how my email
> could have cost you a penny in the spirit it was delivered. The
> significance of this book is that it gives an overview from syntax to
> design and can help  new people to clarify early and move on instead of
> waiting with growing number of terms hanging over our head and making us
> nervous. Just as books are different so are people. I joined a number
> of JUG recently as I got a renewed confidence in Java. I expect I will
> find  a lot of helpfull info and I wanted to share what enabled me to get
> back. If I am not welcome in this JUG, please let me know and I will
> sign off.Thank you.Margaret.

The less spam is that I have to read the emails! Which takes time. I like to
help people when I can, but it seems common place around here to see people
recommending books and other learning sources, which is not really what this
group is about. This group from what I can tell is about helping others, not
directing people to other places when not needed.

I would like to see an official faq for this site contain a list of our
recommended books and resources as it could save a lot of time when these issues
arise.

Everyone from what I can tell, is welcome here with their questions.