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OT (perhaps) Windows 8 disaster?

  Date: Feb 11    Category: Unix / Linux / Ubuntu    Views: 420
  

How is Metro different from Unity?
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Answer #1    Answered On: Feb 11    

Pretty much my own views on Win8 after trying the preview version.
Interesting that the general view is two mismatched systems cobbled
together badly even if it is more slick and stable an OS - get the
impression of watching a car wreck in slow motion here

How fortuitous that Ubuntu will have all the kinks ironed out well
before Win8 hits. Linux on the desktop courtesy of Microsoft getting
it badly wrong ? Who knows !!

 
Answer #2    Answered On: Feb 11    


i have gone to mint 13 mate after years with ubuntu. cant stand unity! guess m$
is going the same way. :-( the only thing i miss is ub1, so i keep one box with
1004 on it.

 
Answer #3    Answered On: Feb 11    

There are major differences and few similarities. Metro is a tiled
interface, looking like something out of the early 1990s. Unity is not.
Some people would say that the similarity is in the title of the article.
Both are design disasters. I think that this is unfair, at least in the
case of Unity. I write this as not a fan of either, BTW. I use Unity from
time to time, but do not like it. I am a KDE user.

Metro is ugly IMO. It is an interface made for a small device scaled for a
large screen and without apparent purpose. It is a quick pre-load for small
tasks and not a full desktop environment. It is a complication for most
users that they would feel better about not having.

Unity was made for the desktop. It is a shell on top of GNOME 3, just as
GNOME Shell or Cinnamon are. We can argue with some of the design
decisions, but it is sleek and elegant and very configurable with lots of
add-on lenses and scopes. In comparison GNOME Shell is pretty much as it
was a year ago. It is blocky and ugly, IMO. Large icons and text. Not very
configurable. It does have extensions, but most just fix design problems
and do not improve it. It looks like a child's interface. So, while people
may complain about Unity (less and less, BTW) it has something going for it.

Unity is being scaled down for other devices (the opposite direction to
Metro which is the phone look on a desktop). Unity is expected to be on
phones soon and on TVs later. Canonical is working with OEMs. I am
defending Unity because Canonical has poured a lot of effort into it and it
has paid off. Ubuntu 12.04 is getting lots of praise. People are making the
adjustment and Canonical has shown that it is willing to make improvements
and pour resources into fixing things. I think that in short order people
will be choosing Ubuntu because it has Unity.

The choices for users of the GNOME family are becoming clearer. A year a go
it was muddy. You have GNOME sHell (intentional), Unity, Mate, and
Cinnamon. All will run on Ubuntu (or Mint). Only two stand out IMO, Unity
and Cinnamon. Mate is dead in the water. GTK 2 is obsolete and its apps
will dry up. People who like the GNOME 2 look and feel have to adjust to
reality at some point. GNOME killed it. RIP. Mint is wasting its time in
developing Mate, IMO. That takes away from Cinnamon which is their star.
They have limited resources. This means that Unity development will outpace
Cinnamon and win over new users at a faster rate. I question Mint and Clem
Lefebvre's judgement.

In contrast, Canonical has gone full steam on Unity development and
scrapped even KDE. They are being smart. (And I am a KDE user). I foresee
Mint stalling and Ubuntu widening the gap. There are few compelling reasons
to install Mint any more since everything that Mint does Ubuntu can do (and
better since it has upgrades) You need to want the Mint look and feel which
is not very Linuxy. It is made to look more Windowsesque. Task bar at the
bottom. Start button. Slab menu. In comparison GNOME has its at the top.
Unity does as well. They have no menu. They are setting the pace for new
Linux interfaces and Mint is looking more retro all of the time. Mint needs
to be careful, IMO.

Most things that people do not like about Unity can be fixed by installing
MyUnity from the repos.

 
Answer #4    Answered On: Feb 11    

Again, the nice part of Ubuntu is that you can easily put the Gnome
desktop on Ubuntu if you don't like Unity. Try that with Metro.
I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on one of my machines and put the Gnome
classic desktop on it. During beta testing, I put XFCE4 and
the KDE phasma on Ubuntu 12.04. I don't know if you can still put
those on but I suspect that you still can.

 
Answer #5    Answered On: Feb 11    

The sad thing is that many people will not think they have much choice with
Win8, but will try to adjust to the mess, and with secure boot MS is making one
more obstacle in the path of linux.
Ubuntu has improved Unity, I'd say it's almost useful to me at this point. My
main issue is that it seems resource hungry, and 2D Unity may not be around
long. The best thing Ubuntu did with Unity was give the option to shrink the
launcher size. If they could get over having it stuck to the left, and would
allow it to be moved to the bottom--pretty much all the griping about it would
be over.
Mint is working on Cinnamon, and it is getting better all the time. Didn't
they say MATE is moving to gtk3?
I'll tell you who to watch, ikey over at SoluOS is turning Gnome 3 (he is
calling it classic I think) into a thing of beauty. The SolusOS 2 alpha 3 is
available and the menu looks impressive as well as the panel. It is hard to tell
the difference between Gnome 2.
KDE is now king in my book, with some tweaking runs as well as Xfce on my
machines. I think Mint is working their heart out when they should just move
Mint KDE up as their default distro, Mint 12 KDE was awesome, Mint 13 KDE should
be even better. They are hooked up with the netrunner folks now and I would
think KDE is, or soon will be, their most polished distro.

 
Answer #6    Answered On: Feb 11    

Guess that's the biggest difference between Linux and Windows/Apple.
Linux is all about choice - Windows/Apple is all about 'Get what we
give you and like it' !!

I wasn't too unhappy with Unity and can see it being good for the
non-power user but at least you can add the KDE desktop and switch
between them if you want - Unity for playing, KDE for working. I
preferred to just use KDE so went with Kubuntu directly.

BTW - Just installed Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity for a customer and they
like it a lot over the fuss and confusion of Vista :-) This is an
older laptop that won't take Win7 ( which was their initial thought )
but checked the model number and it was really a no-go, lots of users
found it just didn't work no matter what they tried. Left it as a
dual-boot just in case but I think they'll be perfectly happy with a
nice, stable, easy to use laptop now :-)

 
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