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F-Spot began freezing computer when deleting images

  Date: Dec 10    Category: Unix / Linux / Ubuntu    Views: 497
  

I continue to experiment with the new computer, and mostly it's doing
pretty well!

F-spot worked the first three times I used it. On the fourth and
following attempts everything locks up when I attempt to delete images.

I wondered if anyone had found this problem recently with Ubuntu 9.04
and F-Spot?

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5 Answers Found

 
Answer #1    Answered On: Dec 10    

Delete Mono and install DigiKam instead. Mono comes from Microsoft via
Novell and therefore sucks by definition. DigiKam is part of KDE but it
works in GNOME, too.

Yes, I am biased. I am thinking of leaving Ubuntu over the inclusion of Mono
whose patent is at best doubtful. It was open sourced by Novell, but the
developer Miguel de Icaza says that patent protection only applies to Novell
and not other distros. Debian and Fedora are stripping out Mono, but
Canonical is thinking about adding Banshee as standard, ie. adding more
Mono.

The first thing I do after installing GNOME is to take out Mono and all
applications that rely on it. there is a deb file now that does this called
mononono.deb. See: http://tim.thechases.com/mononono/

Life was good before Mono and you will feel better for removing it from your
computer.

 
Answer #2    Answered On: Dec 10    

Sorry, what's the connection between F-Spot and Mono?

 
Answer #3    Answered On: Dec 10    

Fspot is a Mono programme. There are replacements in GNOME for most Mono
programmes, but Fspot is the one that most people point to as having no
GNOME equivalent, ie. written in GTK, which is why I recommended DigiKam,
although it is QT4 (KDE) and not GTK (GNOME).

See the list of Mono prgrammes here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_(software)

If you try to remove Mono from GNOME, it will want to remove: Tomboy, Fspot,
GNOME Do, Beagle, Banshee and Miune. There are equivalents for everything
but Fspot. Gnote for Tomboy (although Tomboy developers see the problem and
are apparently porting it from Mono to GTK) for example. My problem is that
Canonical is in fact thinking of increasing Mono content rather than
eliminating it as Debian and Fedora are. They are considering including
Banshee and eliminating RhythmBox in Karmic Koala.

My opinion (and that of many peiople including the developers of Fedora and
Debian) is that if you respect FOSS then you should steer clear of Mono and
all programmes that are written in it, no matter how good they are, because
its license is not unecumbered, which is the essence of free (as in freedom)
software. At best it is doubtful until such time as Microsoft clears up its
status (and it is not in their best interest to do so as it keeps us off
guard and turned on ourselves). It is tainted goods as things stand.

Unfortunately GNOME does not see it this way nor does Canonical. But I
should point out that the developer of Mono, Miguel de Icaza, had a conflict
of interest in this. He is paid by Novell and was a big time developer of
GNOME at the same time. It got into GNOME through him and now GNOME si
trying to distance itself from both. They are looking at the benefits of
having .Net developers work in open source at not at the ramifications that
this could have down the road when Microsoft once again says that we are
infringing on their patents.

Everyone is free as usual to make up his or her own mind but you need to
know that Mono is steeped in controversy and that it has its share of
supporters and detractors. I feel strongly enough that I will leave Ubuntu
if they continue down this path because it is not in the best interests of
open source to give Microsoft leverage to use against us at a time of their
choosing.

 
Answer #4    Answered On: Dec 10    

odd that being clueless about mono i still removed the default mono apps
and chose other apps over mono applications I had tried.

still have skype though.

 
Answer #5    Answered On: Dec 10    

I don't think that Skype is Mono based. It is proprietary software with its
own P2P networking based on Kazaa from which it sprung. The reason why I
think that it is not written using .NET or Mono is that it has to be able to
run on many platforms from Linux, Windows, OS/X to mobile devices. Also, I
have Skype installed and all traces of Mono have been removed from my
system.

Congratulations on your success at removing Mono. I know that you will feel
better for it. Maybe its status will be clarified some day.

 
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