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  Date: Jan 02    Category: Unix / Linux / Ubuntu    Views: 443
  

Currently have a PC with 2 HDD's that will become a XP - Debian &
Ubuntu EMC Dual OS System, anyway that's the goal. Most suggest XP be
installed on the HDD set (master) first. I managed to install XP on
the master HDD with NTFS file system. That's one done??

Next the system will require partitioning & installing Debian & Ubuntu
EMC on the second HDD. I may be able to use one or the other EMC but
some users suggest both to compliment on another.

I have the BDI Debian EMC installation CD & also the Ubuntu
installation CD. Both will install, however, I can't get both on the
HDD as one will wipe out the previously installed leaving me with the
last one I installed.

Questions??? How/what must I do to set up the partitions on the second
HDD to accept the Debian & then the Ubuntu in order to have both
available? Little do I know about the procedures - setting & labeling
root, etc.

Would also like to be able upon boot up to choose which OS to start
up? and how this is accomplished?

The Forum's assistance with this matter would be very much appreciated.

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8 Answers Found

 
Answer #1    Answered On: Jan 02    

First partition the hard drive. While installing ubuntu specify a given
partition and make sure that have enough space for the other one.

It should do it.

 
Answer #2    Answered On: Jan 02    

I do not know where you got the idea of complimentary install but have
it on good authority that Ubuntu is built on the Debian engine so it has
not such value. I suggest you just load Ubuntu Gutsy on that second
drive, the Load CD will partition for itself because it different to the
Win format.

 
Answer #3    Answered On: Jan 02    

I keep a cheep, old computer just for the purpose of loading and
trying out Linux distros. What I have found is that you need to make
your hd partitions and write them down. During the install process it
is common for installer to ask if you want their suggested install
setup or do you want to do an "expert" setup. Choose expert. This
allows you to manually select from a partition list the specific
partition you wish to in tall to.

I have had really bad experiences with the boot loader Lilo. If I
find a distro that won't use Grub, I abort the install. Grub tends to
be fairly friendly and easy to work with once you find out that they
use a hd naming convention that is one lower than the convention Linux
uses. Sometimes installers write the Linux hd numbers to the grub
files. If this happens, use a live disk. Go to /boot/grub and edit the
files as root.

As to the Debian/Ubuntu issue. There may be some small differences
based on the version of Debian you choose. If you install a testing
version, sooner than later the differences will be rolled into the
stable version. Installing KDE vs Gnome will produce a larger
differences in user experience than installing Debian/Ubuntu.

You are correct about installing Windows on the first bootable hd
and installing it first. Linux distros intall just about anywhere and
in any order. They will overwrite the MBR to allow you to see all the
installed OSs and choose which one you wish to boot.

 
Answer #4    Answered On: Jan 02    

I'm a bit behind on my replies as I have been spending my time trying
to install Debian & Ubuntu on the Secondary HDD. Master HDD is fine,
now has XP.

From your reply it appears that you've had actual hands on experience.
It has been suggested that Debian be installed first.

When it comes to Debian partitioning the HDD can be done auto or
manual. Haven't come accross "expert" but manual. It nicely uses Grub
as boot loader & where to install it. Ubuntu EMC the distro CD isn't
as forgiving. When you prepare to install it Ubuntu formats the entire
HDD. Haven't been able to get it right. Haven't been able to locate
the grub on the Distro either.

The Debian CD installs nicely as well as the Ubuntu by itself. It
appears to be a matter concerning the paartitions, correct labeling,
new, edit, resizing, etc. Would like to have both on the same HDD to
compliment each other and just to see if it can be done and how?? and
being able to choose which OS to use?
>
> I have had really bad experiences with the boot loader Lilo. If I
> find a distro that won't use Grub, I abort the install. Grub tends
to be fairly friendly and easy to work with once you find out that
they use a hd naming convention that is one lower than the convention
Linux uses. Sometimes installers write the Linux hd numbers to the
grub files. If this happens, use a live disk. Go to /boot/grub and
edit the files as root.
>
> As to the Debian/Ubuntu issue. There may be some small
differences based on the version of Debian you choose. If you install
a testing version, sooner than later the differences will be rolled
into the stable version. Installing KDE vs Gnome will produce a
larger differences in user experience than installing Debian/Ubuntu.
>
> You are correct about installing Windows on the first bootable hd
> and installing it first. Linux distros intall just about anywhere
and in any order. They will overwrite the MBR to allow you to see all
the installed OSs and choose which one you wish to boot.

I won't go into some of the glitches that can come up. Mayb just me.
The Master HDD installed using the NTFS files. I wasn't able to
partition that for FAT32 & NTFS. Would have liked to.

 
Answer #5    Answered On: Jan 02    

Mepis 7 just went Final and is Debian Etch with some mepis.org
repositories added for timelier updates of Firefox, wireless support,
easier installation, etc. The beauty of Debian is it won't feel the
need to totally rewrite every six months as the Ubuntu bastardized
versions of Debian do.

It's amazing to hear the broken items that occur every six months from
Ubuntu "upgraders".

 
Answer #6    Answered On: Jan 02    

My test system died. So I stopped and picked up a HP M8200N. I have
had font blurring problems with the 32 bit distros I have on hand. I
have downloaded and installed Mepis64 7.0 and so far it looks sweet.

 
Answer #7    Answered On: Jan 02    

There is a good fan base with Mepis. It is one guy project and he get most of
the hardware configure and plug and play devices. Up grades do come slowly with
mepis.

 
Answer #8    Answered On: Jan 02    

True enough. I like to keep an inexpensive test machine so I can
have the hard drive partitioned and keep three distro's running. This
helps me learn new things as different distros implement ideas in
different ways. It has the added benefit of allowing me to experiment
with different UIs. Ubuntu is my choice for installing and supporting
on family and friends computers. One of the great things about the
open source community is that you never know where the next great
innovation will come from. Tonights project is to install Ubuntu 7.10
and then add Geubuntu on top.


http://geubuntu.wikispaces.com/Installing+Geubuntu+from+packages+(64-bit+machine\
s)

I like the look of the Enlightenment desktop and am looking forward
to test driving it.

 
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