> Is this a new install on the laptop or has it been working OK all
> along? Have you done some up dates or installed some software that
> could of affected it?

yeah, its been working great for a long time. it's done this
before, but then snapped out of it. dunno what causes it. but yeah, i just recently updated software. i installed a chess game last week.

> So when you first turn it on it gets the address from the router OK.
> Are you using DHCP or a dedicated address? I presume you mean the
> browser quits working.
> Does Email still work OK to your pop server after the trouble starts?

well, the browser pops up, but it doesnt connect to any sites. email
doesnt work. just tried it. GAIM is still connected and vlcplayer still
plays streaming audio.

> Are the lights on the router showing correctly for a working circuit
> to the laptop the same as the desktop before and after the trouble
> starts? Are there any differences after the trouble starts.

nope. looks normal.

> Do the router leds flash on the router port to the laptop after the
> trouble starts? In ten to twenty minutes when Gaim quits?

not that ive noticed, but ill let you know.

> Does restarting the browser do anything for you?

nope, gotta shut the machine down and restart.

> Can you ping the router?>
> Can you ping any other machine on your network?>
> Can you ping your own loopback?>
> Can you ping anything?>
> Can your desktop ping the laptop or access the laptop?>

whats pinging?
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