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  Date: Dec 12    Category: Unix / Linux / Ubuntu    Views: 341
  

I did know the full history of the MS browser wars and court actions but
use my short version to answer that critic.

I agree with you that FF has just added to many bits and bobs in order I
think to catch up with IE that it is now as slow as IE .

I do have Opera and like it but I do not like to have mail and bowsing
combined in one program. I think that Google Crome may be a new
contender because it is bare bones and rely fast to load and use.

Touble really is that Web sites are often built for IE use as are both
my banks that just open better in IE than any other browser. I can add
a bank logo icon to my desk top by just right clicking on their home
page with IE but not with any other browser.

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Answer #1    Answered On: Dec 12    

Firefox was my favourite, now I use Opera. I also have Seamonkey, it is lighter
and faster than Firefox but it lacks some features. It has a good HTML editor,
Composer which can also be used for programming, I made some conversion
programs with it.

 
Answer #2    Answered On: Dec 12    

We bank with Firefox (Canada), but I have heard of cases where only IE will work
properly. The whole standards compliance issue needs to be revisited. Maybe now
that IE's share has slipped below 80% companies will be more open to being
standards compliant.

I am not a web developer, but I am sure this gives them fits. Perhaps some are a
bit naive and think that if they develop for IE that it will be standards
compliant thinking perhaps that M$ would follow them as well as help set them.
If they wrote for Firefox, I wonder if they would display the same in IE.
Perhaps some web developers here could let us know if this would be the case.

I do know that Opera is suing M$ in Europe for putting them at a competitive
disadvantage because they are standards compliant, but M$ refuses to follow even
standards that they have set. It should be interesting. Things are never dull.

I too like Chrome. I have Chromium installed in Wine (available from
Codeweavers). I look forward to full Linux version. I have not tried it in
Windows, but assume that runs faster. Wine is okay, but applications look ugly
compared to in GNOME or KDE and saving things is a nuisance because you have to
locate the home directory from outside of the dummy C: drive, usually drive Z:
for me.

 
Answer #3    Answered On: Dec 12    

In Korea where I live the only way to buy anything online
at a Korean site is via MS Intenet Explorer, because
government privacy and security controls mandate certain
anti-phishing and anti-malware add-ons to be in place.
These are written with MS Active-X controls. One cannot
even use Firefox to buy ink cartridges from a Korean
on-line marketer, don't mention use internet banking.

The government imposed real-name banking laws to foil
slush funds set up secretly to avoid taxes and for
other reasons by politicians, business tycoons and
organized crime, in the names of willing relatives or
cohorts. Similarly, aside from financial transactions,
even on-line postings on Korean portal site blogs and
cafes are no longer able to be done without the
portal's recording a citizen's identity in its logs,
so that police can crack down on slander. It's a sort
of nightmare scenario from the perspective of, say,
American libertarians, but it's acceptable in the eyes
of the general population here. Different cultures.
Anyway, MS Active-X is the chosen implementation for
these controls. Korea is MS land and the Linux
community here in the Far East is more of a cult group
than it is in North America and Europe and the rest of
the world. Dual-boot will be around for a long time,
even as people continue to opt for the Linux desktop.

 
Answer #4    Answered On: Dec 12    

We've been though this before.
I use Firefox for banking, what you need is an 'add-on' called IE Tab
1.5. ( The banks know I use it but I have not told them how! Because
they say they do not 'support' Firefox )
Go to FF 'tools' click on 'add-on' and search. Once you've installed
it, Under IE Tab options add your secure site to 'Enable site filter'
This way the site thinks you are using IE, but you do not suffer the
lack of security of IE.

 
Answer #5    Answered On: Dec 12    

FF becomes as bloated with add-ons as IE is in Windows so not for me Ta.

 
Answer #6    Answered On: Dec 12    

Fine , that's your choice but don't put the blame on F/Fox for solving
ab IE problem, it's just the monopoly situation that You-know-who
loves and the Bank programmers don't think 'outdside the box' and fall
in line.
Anyway way your bloatware is only a couple of kBts and still leaves IE
standing.

 
Answer #7    Answered On: Dec 12    

Linux and MS produce systems, take your choice, its yours.

Banks decide which they prefer.


I use the bank so I use their system.

All this political crap trap is just hot air Walter.

 
Answer #8    Answered On: Dec 12    

In Korea where I live the only way to buy anything online
at a Korean site is via MS Intenet Explorer, because
government privacy and security controls mandate certain
anti-phishing and anti-malware add-ons to be in place.
These are written with MS Active-X controls. One cannot
even use Firefox to buy ink cartridges from a Korean
on-line marketer, don't mention use internet banking.

The government imposed real-name banking laws to foil
slush funds set up secretly to avoid taxes and for
other reasons by politicians, business tycoons and
organized crime, in the names of willing relatives or
cohorts. Similarly, aside from financial transactions,
even on-line postings on Korean portal site blogs and
cafes are no longer able to be done without the
portal's recording a citizen's identity in its logs,
so that police can crack down on slander. It's a sort
of nightmare scenario from the perspective of, say,
American libertarians, but it's acceptable in the eyes
of the general population here. Different cultures.
Anyway, MS Active-X is the chosen implementation for
these controls. Korea is MS land and the Linux
community here in the Far East is more of a cult group
than it is in North America and Europe and the rest of
the world. Dual-boot will be around for a long time,
even as people continue to opt for the Linux desktop.

 
Answer #9    Answered On: Dec 12    

Well in the USA and here in the UK the post office or Royal Mail are
just not surviving because people are using email and the newspapers are
going to the wall because we all read news online now.

 
Answer #10    Answered On: Dec 12    

It is the same here. The Toronto Star just posted big losses for the fourth
quarter. I get phone calls all of the time asking me to subscribe.As an
environmentalist, I can't subscribe in good conscience. My recycling box is full
as it is with all of the adverts that come to the door. I would put a sign on
the mailbox to not insert junk mail, but my wife likes some of them.

Is the Royal Mail independent or a crown corporation? Canada Post was a crown
corporation but a couple of decades ago it was forced to pay its own way. Now
our stamps costs go up as they please and this affects people's decision to use
the post office or not, often not. We even pay tax on stamps, our equivalent of
the VAT.

We have family and friends in the UK and to send a parcel is ridiculous. When a
cousin had a baby, we spent as much to mail it as the baby gift cost in the
first place. We had friends visiting from the UK and they forgot a whole full
suitcase. We still have the suitcase, but the contents by post cost enough that
I could have flown to the UK with it. Ironically, mailing it was cheaper than
other methods we explored.

We use mail mostly at Christmas for cards and do the rest by email.
Besides email is faster. with things such as Facebook we can check up
on events and see pictures. The internet makes life so much easier.

 
Answer #11    Answered On: Dec 12    

TV is not doing very well in Canada either... CTV (largest independent TV
network) just announced a $100 Million loss and Global TV (2nd largest) is
barely staving off bankrupcy. I'm sure it's the same worldwide.

No doubt about it, we are going through some very tumultuous times and the
world will never be the same again.

 
Answer #12    Answered On: Dec 12    

I have trouble with Firefox crashing. Rather than fool with it I've gone to
Seamonkey. It works great and seems to use less recourses. All I add to it is
Adblock Plus.
Opera is another choice and it will often work on pages intended for IE when
Firefox wont.

 
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