I assumed he meant the thing you get from Insert / Name / Label. As far as I
could see, nothing went into the names  collection from creating one of these.

there is certainly confusion on this, and I start to think that Thomas
is right. Do you use Insert / Name / Label to create a Column Label or Row
Label, or do you use Insert / Name / Define to create a Named Range?

As Thomas says, Named Range names are stored in the Names collection. I can't
find where Column Labels or Row Labels are kept.